October 14, 2011
I have done a bit more testing in the current window provided to the group of HEI testers.
Not a lot more to report since my blog post on 14th September
but here is my updated list of issues:
RCUK Research Outcomes System – Tester Comments
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September 15, 2011
I am attending the PURE UK User Group today to discuss the forthcoming launch of the RCUK Outcomes System.
Dale Heenan and Helen Meade gave an overview of the current status of the project noting EPSRC, AHRC, BBSRC, and ESRC awards holder outcomes will be included from launch.
NERC have thier own system but expect them to review the situation and may join in the standard offering within a year.
MRC and STFC have e-VAL.
For the short term 4 systems will exist though the aspiration is that within 3-5 years all RC’s will share one outcomes reporting system.
The biggest concern is that we cannot bulk upload from research organisation systems. It would be useful to have this live when the system goes live to avoid unnecessary duplicate data entry and data cleansing and checking. RCUK are working with HEI’s on this but the timeframe is currently expected to be after go live so there is an issue.
Late October HEI’s will be given administrative access with go live planned for mid November.
August 17, 2011
Just started doing some testing of the RCUK outcomes system. Some initial thoughts that will be included in my feedback to RCUK and I expect they will publish a summary of feedback and future plans:
- Bulk upload is only currently available per award and only for outcome types publication and conference so this is very limited use
- Online definitions require a bit of rooting about to determine where certain information should go and there is potential overlap
- Concern over staff development data – people might inadvertently fill in something that is inaccurate or inappropriate – I am seeking advice from our HR department
I will look forward to moving towards an efficient solution to this requirement. At present I am not sure how we will minimise burden on staff and ensure useful information is provided to Research Council’s but thought process and discussion is on-going.
July 29, 2011
The presentations from the recent IRIOS event and demonstration are available on the blog:
A report will be added to the blog soon.
You can also try the demonstrator yourself via the blog entry:
July 21, 2011
Just come from a meetingwith MRC representatives and their supplier for the new e-VAL system.
The system looks very good – user-friendly and runs quickly.
The 2011 exercise will run on the existing process cOct/Nov and the new version is expected to be deployed next year.
Other funders could potentially use this system too.
MRC cross references publications with Thomson Reuters (Web of Science) who they work with to verify publications.
We spoke a lot about how to synchronise data with core data stores at research organisations and minimise duplicate data entry and agreed we will continue to discuss such issues.
Discussions between Research Council’s about the holy grail of one system are on-going but it may be some time before we have only one or two systems as there are lots of issues for us to work on together.
July 21, 2011
I understand that RCUK have started user acceptance testing (internal at RCUK) this week and intend to approach research organisations to do some testing in a few weeks and a pilot circa September.
Initially HEI’s will need to think about reporting of outputs that are mandated e.g. publications but the other outputs will be visible so staff will be able to enter them and we will need to be able to manage this.
On updating my gap analysis against our internal data I noticed the spec was missing patents which is meant to be on there so there may be a few other corrections to be done. I expect an updated version and definitions will be available once the testing is complete and I will share my gap analysis once I have reviewed the updated version.
RCUK representatives will be presenting at our IRIOS London event tomorrow and I will update this blog with any significant news.
June 3, 2011
As some of you know I have been in regular contact with MRC about the MRC e-VAL system. I am going to visit them in London on 21st July circa 1-3pm for a demo and discussion about the functionality of their new ‘federated’ system.
By then MRC will have completed some testing with some existing award holders from different institutions.
Of course I will want to discuss possible future world where MRC and other RC’s use a more standardised approach to collecting the data and I know there is very much a willingness to do this.
There is room for 2 or 3 others to join the discussion so if you are interested please let me know by 20th June email@example.com Tel: 0141-330-2674. Ideally you should already have used the existing MRC e-VAL system to participate in the discussion. If there is a higher demand than spaces I will put names in a hat or some other system to allocate spaces.
Will report back from the discussions via this blog.